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Rail Paul
QUOTE (g.johnson @ Jun 30 2005, 10:22 AM)
QUOTE (Rail Paul @ Jun 29 2005, 08:52 PM)
Many of the scholarly journals are publishing scientific work underwritten in part by grants from various government entities. In theory, the results of the studies are supposed to be "widely available" to the public, but the details are often in quite expensive publications, and rarely available for free on the internet.

Not any longer the case. NIH encourages (i.e., orders) grant holders to submit copies of published papers to their web site where they're available to everyone.

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I attended a seminar last year for research librarians and that was the number one complaint. The journals are outrageously expensive, with subscription rates going up each year. Libraries would like to cut back, or obtain internet versions / PDF but these aren't available in many cases.

All the journals I use are available on line (via an institutional subscription in many cases, it's true).

That's good to hear, g. That may be more recent than the time frame recalled by people last year.

Work sponsored by various other federal agencies is often much less available, unfortunately.
mongo_jones
this is all very funny to me. as you know humanities journals have no research money of any kind riding on them. no one is going to get rich, after all, over michael berube's latest insight. and so many journals are simply shutting down, as libraries, themselves going through budget crunches, and unable to afford the humanities journals and the ultra expensive science and law journals, stop buying them. increasing the pressure on those who need to publish in the ever-shrinking pool of peer-reviewed journals for promotions and raises.
tanabutler
Finally, truth in advertising.

I passed a gleaming silver Porsche Boxter on the road yesterday with the license tag frame:

I DRIVE THIS
TO MAKE UP FOR MY SHORT PENIS
Wilfrid1
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Jun 30 2005, 11:39 AM)
this is all very funny to me. as you know humanities journals have no research money of any kind riding on them. no one is going to get rich, after all, over michael berube's latest insight. and so many journals are simply shutting down, as libraries, themselves going through budget crunches, and unable to afford the humanities journals and the ultra expensive science and law journals, stop buying them. increasing the pressure on those who need to publish in the ever-shrinking pool of peer-reviewed journals for promotions and raises.

Is any sensible person actually in favor of this tie between tenure/status and rate of publication? Just seems to result in the publication of a lot of things which don't need to be published.
mongo_jones
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Jun 30 2005, 01:43 PM)
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Jun 30 2005, 11:39 AM)
this is all very funny to me. as you know humanities journals have no research money of any kind riding on them. no one is going to get rich, after all, over michael berube's latest insight. and so many journals are simply shutting down, as libraries, themselves going through budget crunches, and unable to afford the humanities journals and the ultra expensive science and law journals, stop buying them. increasing the pressure on those who need to publish in the ever-shrinking pool of peer-reviewed journals for promotions and raises.

Is any sensible person actually in favor of this tie between tenure/status and rate of publication? Just seems to result in the publication of a lot of things which don't need to be published.

i certainly am not. especially not the book requirement for tenure. all this does is drive the publication of books, most of which are really one article/argument plus elaboration, that no one reads. but the book and peer reviewed articles remain the only ways the administration can imagine to evaluate someone's work--and it becomes a numbers game.

what i don't understand is why humanities journals don't just all move online and cut out the production costs. as long as you have rigorous peer review in place people will want to publish.
GrantK
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Jun 28 2005, 06:28 PM)
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Jun 30 2005, 01:43 PM)
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Jun 30 2005, 11:39 AM)
this is all very funny to me. as you know humanities journals have no research money of any kind riding on them. no one is going to get rich, after all, over michael berube's latest insight. and so many journals are simply shutting down, as libraries, themselves going through budget crunches, and unable to afford the humanities journals and the ultra expensive science and law journals, stop buying them. increasing the pressure on those who need to publish in the ever-shrinking pool of peer-reviewed journals for promotions and raises.

Is any sensible person actually in favor of this tie between tenure/status and rate of publication? Just seems to result in the publication of a lot of things which don't need to be published.

i certainly am not. especially not the book requirement for tenure. all this does is drive the publication of books, most of which are really one article/argument plus elaboration, that no one reads. but the book and peer reviewed articles remain the only ways the administration can imagine to evaluate someone's work--and it becomes a numbers game.

what i don't understand is why humanities journals don't just all move online and cut out the production costs. as long as you have rigorous peer review in place people will want to publish.

It's academia, duh.
Wilfrid1
I don't know if the UK has gone any further down the same path, but I do recall that a few years back the Department of Education began awarding stars to departments with staff who published frequently? Why? Good writers are not necessarily even competent teachers, and there is no guarantee that any of the publications are much good in the first place. It is, as has been said, all very unimaginative.
banh cuon
In many academic circles the peer review process is pretty much a joke anyways. In my field especially, the physical sciences, since my advisor is a big-shot and very well connected, he basically justs sends off our latest paper to one of his buddies who is editor-in-chief of such-and-such "big name" journal, and the paper comes back two weeks later accepted for publication with no revisions by the so-called "reviewers". Honestly, a lot of our papers are kinda crappy and always get published immediately in "high-impact" journals. I am sure that if we sent in the same paper with the name of an unkown assistant professor on it, it would get ripped to shreds and rejected by any decent journals and wind up in lesser publications.
Rail Paul
Why don't we just go back to the old way of doing things?

Kids went to the university, paid teachers and tutors, and eventually sat for exams when they felt well. No formal curriculum, no tenure guarantee. Good teachers attracted students, poor teachers attracted dust. Padua, Sorbonne, and Tubingen and others did that for much of a millenium...

(there are a few rating services which grade profs and departments, helpful for students who don't want to do a lot of work. One prof at Rutgers sued them for libel or some such recently, when he was described by his students as lazy and easy)
banh cuon
Although the old way of doing things was no doubt great for the education of the college student, teaching now takes a way, way, way backseat to bringing in grant money and patent money to an institution. We spend exponentially more time writing grants and attending patent licensing/technology transfer meetings than we do teaching. Teaching is, unfortunately, an afterthought.
mongo_jones
getting rid of tenure is not a good idea. not in the state i work in at any rate. there are good reasons why tenure was set up, and while we can't discuss them here, those reaons have not gone away.

the problem with teaching as the major factor in tenure/promotion decisions is that the hardest graders usually get the worst evaluations. this is actually very easily measured. students don't usually appreciate the teachers who challenge them the most right when the challenging is happening.

in literary studies generally peer review is not a joke. not at the best journals anyway--social text and sokal notwithstanding. this is not to say that patronage and networking have nothing to do with it.
GrantK
June 3, 2005
UC leads push for scholarly e-publishing
By Clifton B. Parker

Both faculty and students want 24/7 access to research, they want it online, on demand and, oh yes, make it free, too.

That is the message behind the breathtaking changes now taking place in the world of scholarly publishing. In a nod to the emerging reality, UC is taking a lead role, encouraging scholars to deposit working papers and monographs into a new free database — "Postprints" — launched in February at http://repositories.cdlib.org/postprints/about.html.

No doubt about it, the market is huge. According to Daniel Greenstein, associate vice provost for the UC system, UC spends $30 million a year on scholarly periodicals. And The Wall Street Journal estimates scholarly publishing is a $5 billion global market.

Beyond the dollars, these are transformative times. Librarians at UC Davis are challenged by the sheer magnitude of the changes — and they point out their mission of serving faculty and students.

"The Web is making it possible for people to access the information in an easier, more ubiquitous manner," said Gail Yokote, associate university librarian for Research Services and Collections. "Before you had to head to the library. Now you can sit at your desk and find it on the Web."

She added, "Our role is to help provide this information" to faculty, researchers and students.

All revolutions come with controversy. Critics say rising subscription fees for journals are blocking timely access to scientific progress. Others say the heightened costs are but a reflection of doing business in an increasingly complex society. Much has yet to unfold, to be sure.



UC Davis
Orik
Walk your pet day - a green talking parrot being marched by its owners on 1st ave. "Come on! walk a little, the doctor said if you don't move it's not good.". Parrot responds with various rants about wanting food. On 14th St., a woman walking her ferret on a leash, while someone in a newly established idiot/punk/nazi colony on St. Marks just off 2nd, someone has a leashed cat.

tanabutler
Pink Floyd: reunited on Live8.

Great set. GREAT.
Squeat Mungry
This morning, as I'm standing in line for coffee at Muddy Waters, the guy behind me is on his cell phone. This is what I overhear:

"Yeah, you know that upside-down straightjacket escape act I do? The one where I'm suspended upside-down fifty feet in the air? In a straightjacket? Yeah. Well this guy calls me and says can I do it over some cougars!

"Yeah... cougars. Like big cats... like mountain lions!

"And I'm like, man, what happens if I drop in there?"

Edit: not "mount lions"
Robert Schonfeld
A gondola trails red, white and blue balloons. Fourth of July (weekend) on the Lake in Central Park:

user posted image
MyKong
Seeing a "class notes submission" email from my prep school. I opened it up and it was a class email from yours truly about my forthcoming nuptials, latest work/school achievments. Funny, didn't send that one.
Orik
looking up restaurant recommendations in Seouls, eG had a reference to a blog that contained the following gem:

Finally, here is a picture of Jake and his girlfriend. She's 22, a university student, very pretty and has a really warm-hearted personality. Not only that but this girl thinks nothing about making dinner, washing the dishes (she feels bad leaving them for the maid), giving Jake, that slimebag, a long massage (and whatever else he wants!) every night she's here and just being sweet and kind to him in general. Now, let me clarify: she doesn't just do all these things because she's unempowered as a woman and hasn't seen enough Oprah yet. No, she simply is a sweet and gentle femine creature who genuinely enjoys selflessly pampering her lover. According to Jake, Chinese girls are just like that. Women of the world, take note!


Below - Chinese woman putting on a show for her lover.

user posted image
Wilfrid1
Yummy.

Seen on the steam table today: Polak fish [sic]. huh.gif

Yesterday - or whenever it was last sunny - a smartly dressed and made-up woman, with a nice shoulder bag, walking up Sixth Avenue at midday... with no shoes. No socks, nothing. And she was clearly in discomfort.

What became of her footwear? Ladies, please advise - all I can imagine is that her shoes suffered some accident so horrendous that she felt better off barefoot.
GG Mora
QUOTE (Wilfrid @ Jul 8 2005, 02:08 PM)
Yummy.

Seen on the steam table today: Polak fish [sic]. huh.gif

Yesterday - or whenever it was last sunny - a smartly dressed and made-up woman, with a nice shoulder bag, walking up Sixth Avenue at midday... with no shoes. No socks, nothing. And she was clearly in discomfort.

What became of her footwear? Ladies, please advise - all I can imagine is that her shoes suffered some accident so horrendous that she felt better off barefoot.

Probably got held up for her Blahniks.
Tamar G
laugh.gif
I've heard of someone losing a shoe in the gap between the subway and the platform- maybe one fell down there and she took the other off. Maybe she lost a bet.
monkeymay
There's been a young girl wandering the streets down here for the past week or so who's particulary distressing. She's very dirty, and has recently had her throat slashed in three broad lines across the front of her neck. ohmy.gif She stopped me the other day to ask if I knew the way to the Twin Towers
(euphemism for LA jail) and took off before I could really help her.
She's attracted some notice because her throat wound, while superficial, is alarmingly red and scabby. A few of us have been trying to find her to get her some medical attention. I came across her today sleeping on a heavily trafficked sidewalk in broad daylight. Anyway, her name is Sarah, and today is her 21st birthday. Her throat was slit in an attempted rape but she got away. She walks the streets at night and sleeps during the day because it's safer. She says she dosen't want any help. So we made her some food, I gave her some cards for free medical treatment and she was gone.
So I just wanted to post this because I know that she's out there and I worry.

Happy Birthday Sarah.
Be safe.
Cathy
God that's heartbreaking. How kind of you to try to help her, Monkey.
monkeymay
QUOTE (Cathy @ Jul 11 2005, 12:45 PM)
God that's heartbreaking.  How kind of you to try to help her, Monkey.

I don't know if it's kindness Cathy - I mean, this kid is just sooo fucked up.
What else could you possibly do? I mean, I've seen some shit down here but her throat is horrific. And she looks like she's 12. The drunks and the crackheads I could care less. But this one hurts.
Cathy
I know what you mean. I saw a young pregnant woman begging on the subway recently, crying, and other than giving her some money and a hug, I felt absolutely helpless to do anything for her.
Melonious Thunk
Late lunch unch today at Nice Matin after meetings. Next to me sat two women, both talking about music and singing. One was obviously a performer. The other, her mother. After making contact says I "are you a singer." "Yes," says she. How did you know?" "I eavesdropped," answers I. What is your name?" "Anne Hampton Calloway," says she. "Oh my, I have several of your records and enjoy your singing." We had a nice chat and exchanged email adresses. She promised to put me on her mailing list.
Leslie
QUOTE (monkeymay @ Jul 11 2005, 02:08 PM)
QUOTE (Cathy @ Jul 11 2005, 12:45 PM)
God that's heartbreaking.  How kind of you to try to help her, Monkey.

I don't know if it's kindness Cathy - I mean, this kid is just sooo fucked up.
What else could you possibly do? I mean, I've seen some shit down here but her throat is horrific. And she looks like she's 12. The drunks and the crackheads I could care less. But this one hurts.


I have no idea if this is true as I've never had to test it out, but when this kind of topic has come up in discussions around the extended family dinner table, my step mom who is active in her Methodist Church volunteered if a person in need, despair, whatever, ever shows up at any Church at all, they will not be turned away for help. Whomever is in charge there will see to it that they are not turned away and that they will get help. As a disclaimer (works for everyone else) this is not a religious comment, but just passing on info to try and help this poor kid with a slit throat if there is no other program that can help her.
Robert Schonfeld
QUOTE (Melonious Thunk @ Jul 15 2005, 06:41 PM)
Late lunch unch today at Nice Matin after meetings. Next to me sat two women, both talking about music and singing. One was obviously a performer. The other, her mother. After making contact says I "are you a singer." "Yes," says she. How did you know?" "I eavesdropped," answers I. What is your name?" "Anne Hampton Calloway," says she. "Oh my, I have several of your records and enjoy your singing." We had a nice chat and exchanged email adresses. She promised to put me on her mailing list.

Cool.
Rose
QUOTE (Robert Schonfeld @ Jul 15 2005, 09:09 PM)
QUOTE (Melonious Thunk @ Jul 15 2005, 06:41 PM)
Late lunch unch today at Nice Matin after meetings. Next to me sat two women, both talking about music and singing. One was obviously a performer. The other, her mother. After making contact says I "are you a singer." "Yes," says she. How did you know?" "I eavesdropped," answers I. What is your name?" "Anne Hampton Calloway," says she. "Oh my, I have several of your records and enjoy your singing." We had a nice chat and exchanged email adresses. She promised to put me on her mailing list.

Cool.

Yeah, cool man. cool.gif
Rose
Had my wiring checked by Ron Johnson.






(new electrician)
yvonne johnson
QUOTE (Leslie @ Jul 15 2005, 08:43 PM)
my step mom who is active in her Methodist Church volunteered if a person in need, despair, whatever, ever shows up at any Church at all, they will not be turned away for help.  Whomever is in charge there will see to it that they are not turned away and that they will get help.  As a disclaimer (works for everyone else) this is not a religious comment, but just passing on info to try and help this poor kid with a slit throat if there is no other program that can help her.

And we're not allowed to talk about religious topics?
Leslie
QUOTE (yvonne johnson @ Jul 15 2005, 11:08 PM)
QUOTE (Leslie @ Jul 15 2005, 08:43 PM)
my step mom who is active in her Methodist Church volunteered if a person in need, despair, whatever, ever shows up at any Church at all, they will not be turned away for help.  Whomever is in charge there will see to it that they are not turned away and that they will get help.   As a disclaimer (works for everyone else) this is not a religious comment, but just passing on info to try and help this poor kid with a slit throat if there is no other program that can help her.

And we're not allowed to talk about religious topics?

If people can't see the intention in which my post was offered, to help a homeless kid on the streets with her neck slit and has no where to go and it has violated the guidelines, then I'll delete it.

edited for clarity.
omnivorette
Apparently deleting posts around here doesn't have to have anything to do with violating the guidelines. unsure.gif
ranitidine
Aside from the gratuitous last--and argumentative--four words of her most recent post, I agree with Leslie. Suggesting an avenue of help for a person desperately in need of it violated no guidelines.
Leslie
QUOTE (ranitidine @ Jul 16 2005, 07:54 AM)
Aside from the gratuitous last--and argumentative--four words of her most recent post, I agree with Leslie.  Suggesting an avenue of help for a person desperately in need of it violated no guidelines.

Thanks rani. I also edited my post for clarity, so as not to detract from its intention.
omnivorette
Ya might wanna move yer apostrophe there.
Leslie
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Jul 16 2005, 08:11 AM)
Ya might wanna move yer apostrophe there.

thanks! blush.gif
jinmyo
Life.

Surreal.
Cathy
Browsing through the children's books at Barnes and Noble yesterday, I saw a kid version of Who Moved My Cheese?.
Orik
QUOTE (Cathy @ Jul 17 2005, 09:40 AM)
Browsing through the children's books at Barnes and Noble yesterday, I saw a kid version of Who Moved My Cheese?.

the original one isn't for kids? unsure.gif
Cathy
Nah, you're thinking of The One-Minute Manager.
Tamar G
from the WSJ:

QUOTE
Even by Wall Street's over-the-top standards, the March 2003 bachelor party for Thomas Bruderman, a onetime star trader for Fidelity Investments, was an event to remember.

The festivities began with a trip by private jet from Boston to a small airport outside New York City. There, the revelers picked up some Wall Street traders and at least two women who investigators suspect may have been paid for their attendance, say people familiar with the matter. The partygoers -- including the groom-to-be, who was getting ready to marry the daughter of former Tyco International Ltd. boss L. Dennis Kozlowski -- then continued to trendy South Beach in Miami. The fun included a stay at the ritzy Delano Hotel for some, a yacht cruise and entertainment by at least one dwarf hired for the occasion.

"Some people are just into lavish dwarf entertainment," says the 4-foot-2 Danny Black, a part-owner in Shortdwarf.com, an outfit that rents dwarfs for parties starting at $149 an hour.


QUOTE
But what really made this a memorable party is that it is now a focus of an investigation into possibly improper gratuities from Wall Street trading firms eager to get Fidelity's business.  . . .  Among other things, investigators are trying to determine if Lazard paid for prostitutes at the bachelor party, the people say.


Oh, and then:
QUOTE
In one electronic exchange made over a trading terminal, then-Lazard trader Robert Ward asked then-Jefferies trader Kevin Quinn how the two of them planned to "T&E" Mr. Bruderman's wedding -- using Wall Street lingo for travel and expense. "Creative T&E...again."


After everything that has happened in the last few years, how are people this stupid?!?
flyfish
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Jul 18 2005, 01:19 PM)
QUOTE
Among other things, investigators are trying to determine if Lazard paid for prostitutes at the bachelor party, the people say.

So they're not worried about who paid for the dwarf? laugh.gif

Fly
hollywood
QUOTE (flyfish @ Jul 18 2005, 10:22 AM)
QUOTE (Tamar G @ Jul 18 2005, 01:19 PM)
QUOTE
Among other things, investigators are trying to determine if Lazard paid for prostitutes at the bachelor party, the people say.

So they're not worried about who paid for the dwarf? laugh.gif


Some folks just get short shrift.
tanabutler
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Daisy
Walking along 17th Street last night after leaving Cibar and encountering a rather frantic plainclothes cop with shield hanging round his neck waving his arms and shouting, "Get back! Go back! Do you want to blow up?" Discernable over towards Union Square: flashing lights, sirens, massive traffic jam. Head east to go west and finally reach home on foot. Not a word in today's Times or on the NY1 website. unsure.gif
StephenT
Yesterday I went to the courtyard of Somerset House in London to have a drink in the (rather patchy at the time) sun. There is a large fountain in the courtyard, made up of a grid of water jets that can be set to jet up to various heights. Sometimes children play in them for fun when it's hot. Yesterday however, there was a marching band marching around in the fountain along with some dancers and other performance artists. Sitting there drinking a beer watching all of this seemed quite surreal indeed.
Kikujiro
Graffiti spotted earlier today on a wall off Grays Inn Road:

have you read wuthering heights vicky
jinmyo
QUOTE (Orik @ Jul 17 2005, 07:51 AM)
QUOTE (Cathy @ Jul 17 2005, 09:40 AM)
Browsing through the children's books at Barnes and Noble yesterday, I saw a kid version of Who Moved My Cheese?.

the original one isn't for kids? unsure.gif

What kind of cheese? Thanks.
ranitidine
Saw in the Times today that the leading grower of Vidalia onions for Wal-Mart and Publix is Bland Farm.
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