Deadly gang fight at the Union Square farmers' market.

the crucial difference is that i admit it when i realize i am.

another recent surreal experience involving the parents: my father is an impatient shopper, usually buying whatever is first at hand, rarely looking at prices or worrying about whether they are presentable or the right size. my mother is constantly on his case for buying things without trying them on. this is a constant source of friction when they visit (since they do a lot of shopping). now it turns out that my mother has bought a whole bunch of stuff that she had not tried on, and that exchanging some of these was the reason for our last shopping excursion. furthermore it turns out that on this second excursion she once again bought stuff in that original size because "it looked like it would fit", and we will have to go back yet again to the store for returns. i tried to convince her that what this means is that she can no longer get on his case because she's guilty of far worse. she, however, maintained that it is completely different, and got mad at me for about two hours.

Whoa. What happened?

I don't have the details yet. But sadly, I know one young person died. Again, this is being called gang-related and not farmers' market related.

That is awful Liza. Tragic.

Tell the truth. You're using this site to try out treatments for a series, to serve as a career change.

Naw, he's just trying to work out the issues he never worked out as a child/young adult/etc. while he still has a chance. Good luck.

Mongo, dear: you will never, ever teach your parents anything. EVER. They are your parents, and you are their child. They never forget that, even if you try to ignore the fact.

From the Times:

I was just going to post that, too. Thank goodness. One of the market managers, a former soldier, worked very hard to help the victim with the stab wound to the neck and I'm sure will be extremely relieved.
Apparently, this sort of stuff spills out a lot more frequently (than at least I would have thought) from, you guessed it Rancho, the McDonalds on the corner of 17th and Broadway. Boys with knives, girls with sticks and fists.

Edited to add: CBS and NY1 say three injuries; NBC reports one fatality.

Mice feasting on the elaborate window display of a local optician. Note to store manager - plastic corn next time.

This one is for you GG Mora: Kmart is selling pine cones. $5 a bag.

Do I hear $4?

The Daily News said one boy died from stab wounds.

I work right by the high school and it is a real load of trouble. I try to not be around there when the kids are on lunch break. Such a change from when my mom went there in the late '50s-early '60s.

On Rockefeller Plaza this morning - Tony Blackburn.



One for the Brits.

Aren't girls allowed knives?

There does seem to have been a lot of this recently. A big brawl outside Philippa's school not long ago.

That's a worrisome trend. Historically, NYC has had much less trouble with gangs than other large US cities.

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

child arrested after opening holiday gift early

A Rock Hill, S.C., woman called police and asked them to arrest her son who opened a Christmas present early after being told not to, the Rock Hill Herald reported. Police went to the house and arrested the boy and charged him with petty larceny.

The paper reported that the boy's great-grandmother had specifically told him not to open his present, which contained a Nintendo Game Boy Advance. It was wrapped and lying under the Christmas tree, the police report stated.
[..]
The mother told the Herald that she didn't know what else to do with her son, so she called police. The paper reported she is a single mother and has been struggling with constant behavior problems from the boy. She said her son still showed no remorse when the police came.

"I'm trying to get him some kind of help," the 27-year-old mother told the paper. "He's the type of kid who doesn't believe anything until it happens."

She said he has shoplifted, stolen money from her, punched a police officer and is nearing expulsion from school. She told the paper that she hopes this arrest will be a wake-up call for her son, because she worries about getting a call someday telling her he's been killed.


well..as they say...what is it again...better late than never?

i don't give a tupenny fuck about your historical revisionism

In a Freudian-slip moment: came home around 10 after a long day of studying in the library and went to get a glass of water. As I was filling up the glass I looked at it and realized that I was filling a wine glass.

Tony Blackburn must be 70 years old by now.

A mere 63. He broke through about forty years ago, in the last days of offshore pirate radio, and then got the plum job of the breakfast show on the newly created Radio 1 in 1967. If Roger "Twiggy" Day had been available, Blackburn might not have been first choice, and history would have been different.

He still has that hair, though.

"The Wonder Pets" have to save a puppy who needs to pee pee.

Nah, just that time of the semester. I won't tell you how many times I've put my topology textbook in the refrigerator and walked back to my desk with the butter.

I've put the peanut butter in the fridge and the milk in the cupboard before. It's pretty amazing how the mind works, and how easily you fool yourself on the simplest things.

I've got you on this one. The other day while I was reading, I absentmindedly went to run my fingers through my hair. Then I remembered: I don't have any.

Grass doesn't grow on a busy street.

WON-derful RA-dio LUX-EM-BURG!

Ultimately it spills out from Washington Irving High School.

Plotnicki and howler (and others) are debating about Leff and the arepa lady on CH.

"and others"??!!!

Oy vey. It's just that howler and Plotnicki have a long history...

Hey everybody! Steve R. is debating too!

thank you, thank you

The surreal part is that the list of who has posted on the thread has howler, Steve P., Robert L., pan, Dave Feldman, Wilfrid, GGMora.... (and Rancho G. even gets his name and beans mentioned). It's Xmas and the family's all around the fire... okay, so they're still throwing things at each other (feel free to wade in... we miss you there). And where's Lex???

It is quite an odd thread with a mix of people that have not been together in years. There is still some of the reflexively defending Jim Leff and cheap eats.

I couldn't find the thread. It's hard to believe, but I find it more difficult to navigate the new Chowhound than the old.

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/344976

And still Plotnicki making up bizarre stories about arepas from small-farm-grown corn (and he should know, because as we all know "...I’m a sucker for things like Mexican antojitos, those warm packets of steaming masa. Or things like Colombian arepas...") and telling everyone they're not reading what he wrote.

No parsing yet.

...and there they go, down the rabbit hole of "authenticity"...

i can't wait to see who has changed their mind when it's over!

Actually the correct analogy is that someone proves a result using a method you think is unenlightening or overcomplicated. Using the wrong chalk would be like complaining she that uses ugly napkins. Why am I even reading this?

Thanks

She puts chalk in the arepas? no wonder I felt not queasy at all after never having eaten them.

sorry orik, I edited (or attempted to, anyway) for clarity.

So she puts ugly napkins in the arepas?

i didn't make it all the way down the page for fear my head would explode, but the discussion confirms again that intelligence is not a requirement for worldly success.

I read enough of this thread to be reminded why it is so pleasant to be away from Plotnicki's circular obstinacy. That would be exactly one of his posts.

Edit: emoticon deleted. Let's be nice, at least for a little while. Plotz's mother died a couple of days ago (death notice in today's NY Times)

I'm really surprised they haven't deleted the posts. When I started reading after the redesign, a woman got on and claimed that some Taco Bell chicken thing was better than anything she'd had in any Mexican restaurant in the Oakland area. I very nicely suggested that she not judge an entire cuisine based on experiences out side the right country. It was deleted within an hour. I then went and actually tasted this dinglebery of a snack and said I could see how one may like it but it's not Mexican. This was also deleted.

But Plotnicki's basic point seems right to me. Of course it's all unreadable gibberish now with all the chihuahuas nipping at him.

Set out morning coffee mug. Pour half an inch of milk in the bottom. Put milk back in refrigerator. Fill mug with...orange juice?

What are you complaining about? At least yours still works.