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Lippy
That's a good point, Mongo. It's doubtful, Omni, that the old Leica even uses the same kind of memory card as the new Canon, regardless the amount of memory.
rancho_gordo
I had my camera in Calif in less than a week with the free shipping, something Amazon seems unable to do anymore. Plus no TAX.
omnivorette
Thanks, everybody. Apparently the extra card we have it a 128, but I will check the compatibility issue.

I'll go over to BestBuy and take a look at it and see how it feels in my hand, etc., and then we'll see.
Lippy
B & H is selling the A610 for $295, including a 512 card.
omnivorette
To make that better than BestBuy, a 512 card has to cost less than $30.
Lippy
The 512 SD card is $45 on Amazon.
Lippy
You will also want to get a card reader to transfer the images to the computer. The only less than excellent design feature on the A6x0 is the door to the USB slot.
It's faster to use the card reader anyway and they are cheap.
bushey
The A620 is at ChiefValue for a very good price, free 3 day shipping included. I've ordered from them before and have been very satisfied. Chief Value
tanabutler
QUOTE (bushey @ Dec 16 2005, 10:02 AM)
The A620 is at ChiefValue for a very good price, free 3 day shipping included. I've ordered from them before and have been very satisfied. Chief Value

PriceGrabber.com: $334 (using an NYC zip code).
hollywood
What's the next shot delay on these Canons?
Lippy
Very fast compared to other similar cameras.
tanabutler
QUOTE (hollywood @ Dec 20 2005, 06:16 AM)
What's the next shot delay on these Canons?

That depends on how large an image you're shooting. My Canon PowerShot Pro1 has a "burst" mode (rapid fire for action shots) that grabs several shots at less than one second each (that's not very accurate, is it?) But it can only sustain that for a few shots at the highest resolution.

But in general, yes, Lippy's right: it's very fast.
hollywood
QUOTE (Lippy @ Dec 20 2005, 06:45 AM)
Very fast compared to other similar cameras.

Thanks.
hollywood
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Dec 16 2005, 08:57 AM)
Ha. Where we are going, there is no electricity.

http://www.mexicoholiday.com/destinations/...hual-facts.html

Is this the place you went last year (earlier this year?) or something new?
mongo_jones
QUOTE (Lippy @ Dec 16 2005, 10:44 AM)
You will also want to get a card reader to transfer the images to the computer. The only less than excellent design feature on the A6x0 is the door to the USB slot.
It's faster to use the card reader anyway and they are cheap.

hmmm.... i don't want to buy any more accessories than i have to. speaking of which, i am annoyed to discover that the camera doesn't come with an ac adaptor. did you and rancho buy one? or does the camera not drain the batteries quickly if you transfer pictures on battery power? my old kodak dc280 came with an adaptor (i'm pretty sure) and a good thing too since it kills the batteries if i transfer a lot of pictures on dc.
hollywood
I'm sensing a Canon in my future. What are the essential accessories and why (cuz I sure don't know)?
tanabutler
QUOTE (hollywood @ Dec 20 2005, 08:41 AM)
I'm sensing a Canon in my future. What are the essential accessories and why (cuz I sure don't know)?

I think you need at least 512MB memory card, a tripod or two, and (if needed) rechargeable batteries. I don't think a card reader is mandatory, but I have a Mac, so you just hook up the cable and it opens iPhoto. (And I don't think Rancho Gordo uses a card reader on his PC, either.)

Everything I've seen makes me think that A620 Powershot is the camera for that price range. All the Powershots that have the swing-out LCD are awesome. It allows such flexibility in shooting that I would not want a camera without that feature.

You can check packages at eBay: the extra lenses are worth considering, too.

Canon A620 Powershot (sorted by highest price first)

This is a REALLY great package. The lenses and filters alone are worth over $200. Make sure you get the USA warranty.
Lippy
The card reader allows you to transfer the images without draining the battery. It's very small and convenient. I wouldn't consider having a digital camera without one. They cost only about $15. You take your pix, remove the card from the camera, put the card in the reader and plug the reader into a USB port to download.

I chose the A610 because it was $100 less and I couldn't be happier, but the extra megapixels on the A620 allow even tighter cropping without loss of quality. Both cameras have the same processor and are equally fast. The A620 has a remote capture feature that allows the camera to be controlled by the computer. I don't even know what that means, really, so it was of no importance to me. You can't go wrong with either camera.
tanabutler
QUOTE (Lippy @ Dec 20 2005, 08:53 AM)
The card reader allows you to transfer the images without draining the battery. It's very small and convenient. I wouldn't consider having a digital camera without one. They cost only about $15. You take your pix, remove the card from the camera, put the card in the reader and plug the reader into a USB port to download.

Ah, I didn't know that. I have an AC adapter as well as a charger, so never worry about batteries.
rancho_gordo
I went for mine because I don't want to buy another camera for five years and because of my work, I thought it would be better to offer really hi-res shots in case some magazine or publisher wanted to use one of my bean shots. (Don't laugh at me- I see you snickering and pointing your digits in my direction!)

My previous camera had 2 mega-pixels.

The battery life is astounding. They just keep going and going. I have rechargeables now after the initial batteries and they haven't pooped out yet so I can't tell you how long they last. But I've taken movies, played them back and even downloaded to my laptop on the batteries.

I like having a table tripod (it takes great no flash lo light shots) and my 1 gig memory card for about $55.
bushey
tana, do you know if the lenses included in that package are Canon lenses? It was hard to tell from the description, but I suspect they're not. Something to consider, since the quality might not be up to par.
omnivorette
Okay! I ordered the Canon A610 from Circuit City on line, using a 10% off coupon I got from a friend, plus it's on sale. So including express shipping and tax, it was $274. I'll buy a 512 card from BestBuy or some such in the next day or two. Camera will arrive on Thursday.

Thanks for all the help.

omnivorette
QUOTE (hollywood @ Dec 20 2005, 11:07 AM)
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Dec 16 2005, 08:57 AM)
Ha.  Where we are going, there is no electricity.

http://www.mexicoholiday.com/destinations/...hual-facts.html

Is this the place you went last year (earlier this year?) or something new?

Same place we went last Christmas...but now instead of 8 huts, there are 17 huts and an additional bath house - they acquired a little piece of adjacent land. Still no electricity! And they're taking scuba boats out right from there now.
tanabutler
QUOTE (bushey @ Dec 20 2005, 10:38 AM)
tana, do you know if the lenses included in that package are Canon lenses? It was hard to tell from the description, but I suspect they're not. Something to consider, since the quality might not be up to par.

I didn't look at those lenses, but I should have....I did buy some lenses from eBay, and since my ex-husband, who is a wonderful professional photographer, okayed them, I plunked down the dough.

Hold on and I'll see if I can find out more.
mongo_jones
so, i stopped by a brick and mortar today to see the a610 up close. they were out but had the a620. megapixels aside, are these identical? if so, it isn't an unattractive camera at all. and the swivel screen is pretty nifty.
omnivorette
Yep - they look the same.
tanabutler
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Dec 21 2005, 11:03 PM)
the swivel screen is pretty nifty.

Don't listen to me. The flip screen is the single aspect of the Canon Powershot cameras that is the most important to me. It's so totally rad. It's even tubular. DO NOT LISTEN, and DO NOT USE IT. Mongo, it does great upskirt shots. You can be as innocuous as John Candy in the boat scenes in "Splash."

I didn't research this, but does the A610 have the amazing special modes that the 620 does?

For my money, I am hating my own Pro1 (urgh) right now and coveting the 620. I can completely understand not buying one if your only needs are to print, or for web stuff, but oh gosh, 7MP and all that power.

Camera failed me tonight in a wonderful restaurant, but I will have some few shots to post regardless, I hope.
Lippy
The A610 has all the modes that the 620 does. Aside from the number of pixels, the two cameras are identical except for the remote capture feature that the 620 has and the 610 does not. I think that allows time-lapse photography controlled by the computer rather than the camera, but don't hold me to it. The A 620 is a darker color than the A610.

Most important, the two cameras use the same processor.

Some users at dpreview feel that there is slightly less noise, (i.e. the digital equivalent of graininess) in low-light situations with the A610 when the photo is printed at the larger sizes, but only so-called "pixel-peepers" would notice.
FaustianBargain
QUOTE (tanabutler @ Dec 22 2005, 07:30 AM)
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Dec 21 2005, 11:03 PM)
the swivel screen is pretty nifty.

Don't listen to me. The flip screen is the single aspect of the Canon Powershot cameras that is the most important to me. It's so totally rad. It's even tubular. DO NOT LISTEN, and DO NOT USE IT. Mongo, it does great upskirt shots. You can be as innocuous as John Candy in the boat scenes in "Splash."

I didn't research this, but does the A610 have the amazing special modes that the 620 does?

For my money, I am hating my own Pro1 (urgh) right now and coveting the 620. I can completely understand not buying one if your only needs are to print, or for web stuff, but oh gosh, 7MP and all that power.

Camera failed me tonight in a wonderful restaurant, but I will have some few shots to post regardless, I hope.

tana, what is the problem with the pro1?

singapore's mustafa has stopped stocking pro1 which means they are phasing it out of the market. probably.

rancho.g, agree re the batteries. now, why wont they make vibrating canon cameras, i ask you.
omnivorette
I got a 512 card on sale for $39 (and a $10 mail-in rebate) at BestBuy! Waiting for the camera to arrive...
Lippy
I would have gotten the A620, but it was $100 more than the A610 for features I would be unlikely to use. I rarely make prints larger than 4 x 6 and 5 mp gives me more than enough leeway for cropping. Other users' needs may be different. Once again, I recommend careful perusal of dpreview for thorough professional reviews as well as comments by camera owners. It's still important to hold the camera in your hands to see if it's comfortable for you to use. No on-line discussion can tell you that.

omnivorette
The A610 arrived, I put in the 512 card I bought....and all is well! We played with it quite a bit already...and it's great. Thanks very much everybody.
hollywood
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Dec 21 2005, 11:12 PM)
Yep - they look the same.

Apparently identical except for the chip and being a greyer color on the outside.
porkwah
[deleted because i was offering some memory to the first taker, and it's taken]
Lippy
Mongo, have you bought a camera?
mongo_jones
QUOTE (Lippy @ Mar 21 2006, 11:27 AM)
Mongo, have you bought a camera?

can you believe i still haven't? but it will be the a610. and the occasion will probably be mrs. jones' phd hooding ceremony in l.a in may. thanks to a large number of amazon reward certificates it will end up costing only a little more than $100. of course, that is if i resist the temptation to use them to get the a620 at the a610 price.
omnivorette
I love the A610 still. Do you really need the 620 for some reason?
mongo_jones
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Mar 21 2006, 11:39 AM)
I love the A610 still. Do you really need the 620 for some reason?

well, there's always stupidity.
Rail Paul
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Mar 21 2006, 01:38 PM)
mrs. jones' phd hooding ceremony in l.a in may.


Congratulations on that family accomplishment.
Steven Dilley
Since this thread is back at the top, anyone have an opinion on the Nikon D50?
mongo_jones
QUOTE (Rail Paul @ Mar 21 2006, 11:55 AM)
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Mar 21 2006, 01:38 PM)
mrs. jones' phd hooding ceremony in l.a in may.


Congratulations on that family accomplishment.

she got the degree last year--she's only doing the ceremony this year so she could "walk" with some of her friends.
porkwah
i did my walk 11 1/2 months after getting my degree -- my parents wanted to go for some odd reason. weird.
omnivorette
I used to love to go to Yale commencement just to hear Bart Giammatti speak Latin. wub.gif
g.johnson
QUOTE (porkwah @ Mar 21 2006, 02:35 PM)
i did my walk 11 1/2 months after getting my degree -- my parents wanted to go for some odd reason. weird.

I told my parents that my BA graduation ceremony was the only one I would attend.
cabrales
I'm looking for a very small, very light, sleek-looking, at least 6 megapixel, works-well-in-very-low-light camera. Price doesn't matter. I've been using Canons, but the 550 seems kind of heavy. dry.gif
porkwah
QUOTE (Steven Dilley @ Mar 21 2006, 01:56 PM)
Since this thread is back at the top, anyone have an opinion on the Nikon D50?

mrs. porkwah has one which she likes very much. i've used it and i also like it but it's more camera than i need.

i'd also check out the canon rebel -- these cameras are of similar quality and a lot of whether a camera works for you depends on how it fits in your hands.

her flickr is http://www.flickr.com/photos/_clr_/
porkwah
QUOTE
I'm looking for a very small, very light, sleek-looking, at least 6 megapixel, works-well-in-very-low-light camera. Price doesn't matter. I've been using Canons, but the 550 seems kind of heavy. 


I have a canon SD450 which is 5 mp. it's small enough to put in a pocket comfortably. it's very good for a small camera -- excellent speed, good color, fast on/off time, good battery life. it does fairly well under low light conditions but it's got a small lens so it's not great.

i didn't get the 550 because my hands aren't steady enough to make > 5 mp make sense.

if i were buying now i'd certainly look at cameras that have shake adjustment or whatever they call it. that's got to make a lot of difference.
Lippy
Maurice has a very chic Nikon. Maybe if you ask nicely, he'll give you the details.
rancho_gordo
QUOTE (mongo_jones @ Mar 21 2006, 10:43 AM)
QUOTE (omnivorette @ Mar 21 2006, 11:39 AM)
I love the A610 still.  Do you really need the 620 for some reason?

well, there's always stupidity.

Fuck you very much! And I mean that in the nice way.

For me, I'd like to think a magazine may want photos of my beans at a high res or I may want to make a poster. Hasn't happened but I feel good knowing I can and you can't.
pim
QUOTE (cabrales @ Mar 20 2006, 09:12 PM)
I'm looking for a very small, very light, sleek-looking, at least 6 megapixel, works-well-in-very-low-light camera. Price doesn't matter. I've been using Canons, but the 550 seems kind of heavy. dry.gif

Amazon is having a Canon dg cam sale.

Canon sale on Amazon

(And, no, that's not an amazon associate link. I'm not making a commission off this. tongue.gif )

Cabrales, we've got the SD550. It's great. It's a bit heavier and not as pretty as my Sony DSCT1, but works better especially in low light situation. It's not particularly expensive anyway, and Amazon has a sale on it besides.

It's the best of the mini ones I looked at when I got it a couple months ago.

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